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1983 Halfway Around Glacier Peak
Carne Mtn/Leroy Cr High Route
Spider Meadow - Lyman Lake
Cloudy Pass/ Image Lake
Dolly Vista/ Whitechuck TH
August 1983

Greg Emens & Pat Haller - Near the top of Spider Gap

Troop 24 Scouts: Greg Mooseker, Pat Haller, Randy Miller, Corby Miller, Greg Emens, Mike Ruhsenberger, Mike Baker

Troop 24 Adults: Bill Mooseker, Merl Weatherhogge, Bob Miller

Troop 24 "The High Adventure Troop" Backpacking Trip
-Cascade Bill Mooseker


Date(s): August 1983. Album by Cascade Bill. 1 - 103 of 103 Total. 434 Visits.
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Map showing route for Days 1 & 2. - View Map at Original size for best view - red circles with numbers show locations of certain photos in album. (Note I've misplaced a  tiny red 3 on the map- ignore

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Statistics for Day 1 along the trail - 3.2 miles and 2784' climbed.
This is from a BASIC program I wrote using a database compiled from using a "roller" measurement device along a route on a topo map.
I still use the same program, but now I get the database from coordinates obtained from topo maps on CD's (Maptech).


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The Carne Mtn Trail relentlessly climbs up out of the Phelps Creek Valley.  Fortunately, most of the climb is in the shade of the forest, but near the top the trail enters meadows with expansive views.

This photo is from Troop 24's 1997 trip.


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Our first nights camp was in Carne Mtn. Basin, below Carne Mountain.  This photo shows our camp from the ridge above the camp.

It was only 3.2 miles from the trailhead to our camp, but we had to climb almost 2800 feet.

This photo is from Troop 24's 1997 trip.


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Our Camp in Carne Mtn. Basin - My first trip here was in 1969 - Sue and I, with her carrying Greg (2 years old) were very tired when we got to the basin and looking forward to making camp.  Unfortunately, we found that the basin was occupied by about a thousand sheep and two Basque sheepherders.

This photo is from Troop 24's 1997 trip, but we camped in the same spot in 1983.


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Stats for Day 2:
this is one of the hardest days, packs are still very heavy and much of the route is off trail.  One of my favorite routes.  I've done it 6 times now - 1969, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1994, and 1997.


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Looking east from the summit of Carne Mtn to Entiat Ridge.

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Looking up Phelps Cr towards Spider Meadow from the summit of Carne Mtn.

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Another view - you can see the Spider Glacier (the long thin ribbon of white to the left of Spider Meadow)

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Looking towards Phelps Ridge with Buck Cr Pass way in the distance from the summit of Carne Mtn.

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Looking across the Chiwawa Valley to Buck Mtn with a peekaboo view of Glacier Peak just to it's right.

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Looking SW from the summit of Carne Mtn.

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Cascade Bill at the summit of Carne Mtn.

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Greg Mooseker with Buck Mtn and Glacier Peak in the background.

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Descending Carne Mtn - the guys can be clearly seen if you enlarge the photo.

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Another view.

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Looking back towards Buck Mtn.

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This shows how far we have climbed up from the valley below (Phelps Cr).

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Location 1 on Map D1
Taking a break on the Carne Mtn - Leroy Cr High Route - Mike Ruhsenberger (seated), Corby Miller, Pat Haller, and Randy Miller.


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Location 2 on Map D1
Heading up to the Pass above Chipmunk Creek - No trail here, you just try to find the best way up.  Bob Miller and Merl Weatherhogge (and myself) bringing up the rear.
Click Here for a view of Troop 24 climbing the same hill in 1997.


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Looking back towards Box Cr. basin  from near the pass to Chipmunk Creek.

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Chipmunk Cr Basin - there is some old tread down from the pass to this point, but it soon disappears in the meadows beyond.

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Greg - looking towards Spider Gap from meadows just past Chipmunk Cr basin.
From here on, the route gets much rougher as you have to drop down into a rocky basin around the corner.  Traverse around the shoulder till you come to a talus slope, which you can work around on the left.


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Location 3 on Map D1

Group picture from ridge before descending into Leroy Cr basin.

As I noted a couple of photos ago, the route from Chipmunk Creek to Leroy Creek Basin is really rough, especially dropping down into the talus on the slopes of Seven Fingered Jack, which we are about to do here.


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(L to R): Merl Weatherhogge, Corby Miller, Greg Emens, Mike Ruhsenberger, Pat Haller, Randy Miller, Mike Baker, Bob Miller, Bill Mooseker

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Leroy Cr. Basin - Camp 2: Mtn in background is Seven Fingered Jack.

It was getting dark as we staggered into camp the previous night - Although the hiking was very scenic, it was also very taxing and quite a few of us went to bed as soon as the tents were picthed without having supper.


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Map for Day 3: Leroy Cr Basin to Spider Meadow.
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Stats for Day 3:
If it wouldn't be for the ankle killing steep descent for the ever worsening Leroy Creek trail, this would be a very easy day.  After a relatively short day, you get to spend a relaxing time at one of my favorite camps: Spider Meadow.


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Map for Day 4:
Spider Meadow to Lyman Lake.  (Best viewed at Original size.


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Stats for Day 4:
All I can say is it seemed much easier in 1980 and 1983 than in 2012 when I was 69!


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Group at Spider Meadow (Camp 3)- Beginning our hike up and over Spider Gap to Lyman Lake.
Bob Miller, Merl Weatherhogge, Mike Baker, Greg Emens, Corby Miller, Greg Mooseker, Mike Ruhsenberger, Pat Haller, Randy Miller.


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Rain is moving in as we climb the Spider Glacier.

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Greg Emens and Pat Haller near the top of Spider Gap.

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Randy Miller

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Corby Miller and Merl Weatherhogge

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Mike Baker

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Greg Mooseker looking toward Lyman Lake's basin from Spider Gap.

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Bill Mooseker & Bob Miller make it to the top.

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Bill & Bob.

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Greg Mooseker at Spider Gap.

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View from Spider Gap looking north.
Cloudy Mtn is obscured by clouds at the right of the picture.  The incoming front can be seen at the left as the clouds are spilling over the Cascade Crest from the west.


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Heading down snowfields below Spider Gap.

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Mike Ruhsenberger & Merl Weatherhogge

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Looking back towards Spider Gap.

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Greg M. above the Lyman Glacier.

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Snout of the Lyman Glacier.

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Greg M.

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view of the moraine building at the snout.

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Another view.

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The previous photos do not show the scale of the glacier - the blue speck left of center is Greg (enlarge photo), which shows exactly how massive the snout is.

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Another view. You can see that those crevasses could swallow a person very easily.

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Bill M - Lyman glacier in the background.

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Greg Mooseker

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Bonanza Peak from the ridge above Lyman Lake.  From here on there is a trail down to the lake.

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Map for Day 5: Lyman Lake to Glacier Peak Mines.
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Stats for Day 5:
Not a hard day either in miles or climb.  Scenery wasn't bad either.


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Our Camp (Camp 4) at Lyman Lake.  Notice the old style single wall tents (from Sears).  We did a service project for the Forest Service here as they were moving a Kybo and needed a new hole dug.

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View of Lyman Lake from near our camp.

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Another view - You can see that the rainy weather is gone here, but the wispy clouds forming over the ridge show that the west side of the crest was still cloudy due to an onshore flow.

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View from the west side of the lake, looking down Railroad Cr. - Bonanza Peak is to the left.

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View from Cloudy Pass, showing Lyman Lake and Glacier, as well as a good view of our route down from Spider Gap.

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Another view.

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Another view: Click Here to see how much the Lyman glacier has receded in 29 years in this photo from the same spot in 2012.

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The view from Cloudy Pass is considered as on the the best in the Cascades.  Another of the best is the view from Image Lake towards Glacier Peak.  It's sad the the Crest Trail was relocated to a very unscenic valley pound from the Suiattle River to Suiattle Pass and most through hikers miss both of those views.

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Telephoto view. (Yes I used to lug a telephoto lens along).

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Another telephoto view.  If you compare the extent of the snowfields in 1983 vs 2012 you can see the it was a lot easier to negotiate the route in 1983 than 2012 as there was much more snow glissading than talus.

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View of Cloudy Pass and Cloudy Peak - Greg took this one from the ridge above the pass.  You can see our packs at the pass.  I can make out Merl and Bob just below the trees at the center of the photo (view at Original size).

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Another view of our group down at Cloudy Pass.

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Looking back towards Spider Gap.

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Looking down the Agnes Cr. from the vantage point above Cloudy Pass.

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Plummer Mtn.

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Map for Day 6: Glacier Peak Mines to Suiattle River.
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Stats for Day 6:
A long descent from Scenic Miner's Ridge.  Note I have an error in the Elev loss of -2700 feet.  The actual day loss would be 4100 ft. It looks like I had an extra data point of "0" elevation.


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Greg Mooseker on ridge north of Image Lake.  View is looking north. Dome Peak can be seen in the far distance.

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Sitting Bull Mtn from vantage point on Miner's Ridge above Image Lake.

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View of Glacier Peak and Image Lake from vantage point on Miner's Ridge.

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Greg with Image Lake and Glacier Peak in background.

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View from Image Lake.

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Telephoto view.

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Another Telephoto view.

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Bob Miller at Image Lake.

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Wow! What a view!

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Cascade Bill at Image Lake.

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We didn't camp at Image Lake - instead we camped at the Glacier Peak Mines (Camp 5) further back along Miner's Ridge.

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On our way down Miner's Ridge, our way was blocked by a couple of bears.  If you enlarge the photo to Original size, you will be able to see the bear, who was probably gorging himself on blueberries.

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Another view of the bear- Enlarge photo.

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Looking north from Miner's Ridge toward Bannock Peak.

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As we waited for the bears to disperse.  View of Glacier Peak.

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Merl Weatherhogge

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Bill, Bob, and Merl contemplate the view across the wide Suiattle valley.

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Troop 24 - Bill Mooseker, Merl Weatherhogge, Mike Ruhsenberger, Pat Haller, Greg Mooseker, Randy Miller, Mike Baker, Greg Emens, Bob Miller, and Corby Miller.

After this we began the long, long descent down to the Suiattle River, where we made our camp for the night (Camp 6).


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Map for Day 7: Suiattle River to Horseshit Basin
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Stats for day 7:
Probably the hardest day of the trip - climbing out of the Suiattle River gorge back up to the meadows at 6000 ft only to drop back down to 3700 ft. To top it off, ending the day with a 700 ft climb to one of the worst camps ever.


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Map for Day 8: Horseshit Camp to Pumice Creek
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Stats for Day 8:
At the end of the day we were about 60 miles into our "50 miler".


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Day 8 - taking a Kool Aid break (Back then we would mix up a big batch for the group as opposed to individual canteens as we do now).  No photos from Day 7 - a long climb up from the Suiattle and winding up at the worst campsite ever (Horseshit Camp - Camp 7).  We ran out of daylight and had to stop short of our goal at the nice camps below Mica Lake.

Greg Emens, Mike Baker, Pat haller, Randy Miller


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Clouds enshroud Glacier Peak from this view from the Crest Trail.

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Another view - Close to our camp at Pumice Creek (Camp 8).  Day 9, was continuing along the Crest trail, then down Kennedy Ridge, past Kennedy Hot Springs and out via the Whitechuck River Trail.

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Map for Day 9: Pumice Creek to the Whitechuck Trailhead.
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Stats for Day 9:
A pretty long day to end a trip. We were met at the trailhead by a group of Troop 24 parents who provided us a great lunch and a much appreciated cold beer for the dads.
At present, the Whitechuck trail is not passable due to erosion due to flooding, so this trip would not be possible today.


 
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