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2019 Fish & Owl: Samurai Flag Ruins
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"Samurai Flag" Ruins

Fish & Owl Canyon Loop

Pictograph Resembling Samurai Flag

We spied the Samurai Flag ruins while hiking on our trip in 2001 – Shelby Stong, Roger Shively, Austin Peckinpaugh, and I attempted to climb up to them. I made it up to a prominent ledge about 2/3 of the way up but a chest high step stopped me from going further. Shelby, Roger, and Austin kept on going. After a while, Roger and Austin came back down – they felt that the way up got way too “hairy” for them. Shelby, well he's just Shelby, kept on going and made it up (I've included a few of his photos in this album). On this trip, Nick, a competent climber, made it up to the ruins as well, saying that there were some dicey spots on the way up.

I'm calling these the “Samurai Flag” ruins because of the large distinctive pictograph that appears to hang over the complex. It reminds me of all the banners in the 1985 movie Ran. You can see the similarity to this PHOTO.

This complex is a really an interesting one and I hope that you enjoy Nick and Shelby's photos. One thing I know, is that if I had been one of the residents way back then, I sure wouldn't have wanted the job of fetching water every day!

Note photo takers are given in the titles under the thumbnails:

Kickass Trekkers on this trip were: Bill Mooseker, Nick McMahan, Tracy McMahan, Jon Younger, Fred Stong, Mike Stong, Will Stong, Nancy Stong, Allan Hoseth

The descriptions under the photo thumbnails in the album sometimes contain links to maps or additional information. These are identified by "Blue” text for links. I've also inserted links to Google Maps to show where certain photos in the album were taken or to locate features shown in the photos. Click on the link, close the sidebar, and choose satellite view. Basically, you can then zoom in and out using the mouse wheel or drag the map by clicking and holding.

The thumbnails do not do justice to the ruins, petroglyphs and pictographs, so I would recommend enlarging them as well. Please take the time to view the many videos to better experience what it was like to be there.

Troop 24 Kickass Trekkers Backpacking Trip
-Cascade Bill Mooseker


Date(s): May 6-10,2019. Album by Cascade Bill. 1 - 47 of 47 Total. 395 Visits.
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Big boulder jam to navigate through at the beginning of the climb Edit

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Telephoto from wash showing ruins in the alcove Edit

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Telephoto from wash of "Windows" ruin Edit

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View of main ruin complex from ledge - Enlarge photo to view "Samurai Flag" pictograph. Edit

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Up close view of Samurai flag pictograph and others.  Who knows what this symbol represents? Its prominent position indicates that it was important. Edit

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View of the ruin complex. There appears to be a lot of rubble between the ruin with the window/door opening and the ruin on the right. Edit

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Foreground ruin - prominent right angle corner Edit

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Inside of the foreground ruin - looks like it has been excavated into the slope Edit

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Another view - perfect rectangular shape. No door or window - only access from the top?  Would they use a ladder to get in or our? Edit

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Wall in front is the foreground ruin Edit

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Window/Door opening in main structure Edit

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Looks like there was a lintel here at one time that has fallen out and taken part of the wall above it. Constructed wall beyond abuts the bedrock Edit

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View of the main structure. As an engineer, what puzzles me is that part of the back wall has been constructed against the bedrock (why not just use the bedrock wall) and then curves out leaving a space between it and the bedrock that is closed off by the end wall. See photo 16 for details of this curved wall. (enlarge to view) Edit

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Main structure - looks like there might have been an opening here as the protruding blocks look like a support for a sill. Note the double withe construction, which would make a more stable wall. Edit

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Photo from 2001 showing back of curved wall with small openings near the top and a large rectangular opening at the bottom. Who knows what these were for?  The big opening would give access to the space created between the wall and the bedrock. From our perspective, we would say that it was a fireplace but there is no evidence of carbon deposits from a fire.  The small holes could be either ventilation openings or for inserting roof beams but to me the span is too great for that size beam. Edit

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Pile of rubble to the right of the main structure.  I think this a kiva (see following photos). On the ledge in back are three structures I'll call ruins A, B, and C. Ruin C appears to be two separate structures abutting each other. Edit

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2001 photo of the entrance to the left side of ruin C. The wall remnant at the left might have been part of ruin B at one time Edit

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Ruin A also appears to have been extended with an opening at the left side sometime after the initial construction.  Note that it would have been difficult to access the opening in this stucture.  Building B has only a remnant of wall left - no rubble evident in the foreground.  Note that it is a different type of construction as well with a clay slurry plaster having been applied to the surface. Edit

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View of the kiva - typical rectangular openings at bottom.  See HERE from kiva in Grand Gulch. Edit

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Leaving the main complex behind - climbing up the ledge leading to a separate ruin complex on a higher alcove Edit

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Looking back down at the main complex from the alcove above. Edit

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There are more ruins in this upper alcove Edit

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Telephoto view from the wash showing second ruin complex.  Note walls under alcove. Edit

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These are the walls visible from the wash (2001 photo) Edit

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Door of wall - note wood branches outlining door and applied clay "plaster" or "stucco" on the outside Edit

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Another view (note upright flat rock past the opening) Edit

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Edge on view of previous wall with door. It appears that the stone wall has fallen - structural failure due to no perpendicular stone wall corner to brace the wall. The stucco wall did not provide any lateral support. All of the other walls in the ruin complex are stone except this one wall.  Why did they take this shortcut? Edit

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Interior of stucco wall - exposed branches oriented vertically. At the bottom corner, it looks like they started to plaster the inner side of the wall but gave up. Edit

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Another view of the interior wall Edit

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The faux wall looks good from this angle.  looking back into the alcove at the upper left is another room. Edit

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This is the structure that was noted in the previous photo. It's hard to say what is going on here. The rectangular ruin shown in photo 23 is on the other side of this jumble. Edit

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View looking down into the room from the previous photo Edit

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View of interior room (don't know which ruin) Edit

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2001 photo shows Rectangular boxes made of flat stones buried in the sand. Similar boxes can be seen at the Owl Eyes ruin (See HERE) and in Slickhorn Canyon 2004 (See PHOTO)  Note also the similar rocks jutting up from the floor in photos 27 & 28. Edit

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At extreme end of the ledge, there appears to be the remains of another structure (see branches and wall remnants at bottom right) Edit

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View of the structure at the end of the ledge shown in previous (enlarge photo for better view) Edit

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?? - Is this a fossil, petrified wood, or piece of charcoal, etc. ?? Edit

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Pottery shard Edit

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More pottery shards Edit

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Very fine example of the lip of a delicate clay pot. It's hard to imagine the time it would be to decorate a pot like this. Edit

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More shards Edit

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Maize cob Edit

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Maize cobs in the detritus around the ruin Edit

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2001 photo showing finger indentations in the mortar between the rocks in the wall Edit

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