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Hi-VHF+UHF Tapered Loop - A-D C2 & C2-V
Hi-VHF and UHF Tapered Loop with Screen Grid Reflector PLUS Hi-VHF Stick Dipole analyzed
using 4nec2, approximating Dimensions for Antennas-Direct C2-V.  

DIMENSIONS Per ADTech and user freezer:
Inner Loop Diameter 6-1/4", Outer Loop Diameter 8-5/8" with 1/2" Overlap at Feedpoint.
Gen-I/II VHF Dipole = 37-7/8-in, Reflector = 20-1/8" H x 11-5/8" W x 4-1/16" "Deep".
Feedpoint DETAILS found towards the bottom of fol. webpage:
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/TemporaryPage.html

ADTech indicated that there are actually THREE DIFFERENT Generations of the C2-V, using
different VHF Impedance Matching Approaches [NOT analyzed in below results]:
"First and second generation C2Vs used a standard 300/75 ohm matching transformer to match
the dipole to the Holland UVSJ's VHF input. Because of the built-in mismatch, the length
of the dipoles was increased to bring the return loss back down in the center of the VHF band.
Third generation C2Vs that utilize the VHF-1 module utilize a custom PCB matching network
that's closer to a 1:1 ratio, allowing the dipole elements to be shortened by 3.25" inches each
while still having the best return loss at mid-band. The VHF-1 module includes the UVSJ
function internally."

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Four variations were analyzed: UHF C2 with Reflector, Gen-I/II C2-V adding Hi-VHF Dipole, Gen-III/VHF Module
C2-V and C2 without Reflector.

a) C2 Tapered Loop with Screen Grid Reflector:

UHF Raw Gain = 9.6 to 10.1 dBi, F/B & F/R Minimum = 14.9 dB and SWR (300-ohms) Under 1.9.
[A-D C2 Specs: Gain = 9.7 to 10.2, F/B = 20 dB (typ), 22 dB (max at 698 MHz) and SWR (300-ohms) under 3.0.]

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b) Gen-I/II C2-V Tapered Loop, Screen Grid Reflector + Hi-VHF Dipole, connected to UVSJ via 300:75-ohm Balun:

UHF Raw Gain = 9.4 to 10.1 dBi, F/B & F/R Ratio Minimum = 17.9 dB and SWR (300-ohms) Under 2.4.
Hi-VHF Raw Gain = 2.7 to 3.2 dBi, Hi-VHF F/B & F/R Ratio = 0.3 to 0.6 dB and SWR (300-ohms) Under 2.4.

Note the mid-band UHF Loss of about 0.5 dB when adding the VHF Dipole.

Note that despite the VHF Dipole being slightly SHADED by being mounted BEHIND the Reflector,
Hi-VHF Gain was 0.9 to 1.2 dB HIGHER than JUST an Optimized Hi-VHF Dipole [see Link below],
with 0.25 to 0.5 dB MORE in the Forward Direction, so the Reflector must have been acting to
squeeze out more Gain at the expense of Horizontal and Vertical Beamwidths. Also note that
the Side NULLS were limited to about -17 to -15 dBi Gain [A-D calculated -16 to -14 dBi],
rather than forming very deep Nulls more typical of a Dipole without other surrounding Metal:
https://imageevent.com/holl_ands/dipoles/hivhfuhfstickdipolenoreflector

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c) Gen-III/VHF Module C2-V Tapered Loop, Screen Grid Reflector + Hi-VHF Dipole,
combined with UHF Coax via Impedance Matching Network:

T.B.D.

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d) C2 Tapered Loop with Reflector REMOVED, so Bi-Directional:

UHF Raw Gain = 5.5 to 6.8 dBi and SWR (300-ohms) Under 3.2.

Note that INCREASE in Raw Gain is quite significant as the Thickness (Relem) becomes as thin as Aluminum Foil...with INCREASE
to excessive SWR=4.0 at 470 MHz.  Al. Foil Relem(STD)=0.000315-in and Relem(HD)=0.00047-in.
However, note that assumed Relem=0.0404 (14-Gauge...or perhaps thinner 16-Gauge) is best match to A-D C2 Specs, esp. SWR.
In below Charts [#52-57], Alum. Foil is on Far Left and AWG-16 on Far Right.

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EDIT (2Apr2015): Uploaded revised charts based on refined dimension information from ADTech.

EDIT (4Dec2016): Added charts showing how Raw Gain INCREASES as the Thickness (Relem) is reduced.
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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2 - 3D View


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2 - Front View
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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2 - Side View
[1 large square = 1.25 inches]


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
UHF Raw Gain = 9.6 to 10.1 dBi
UHF F/B & F/R Minimum = 14.9 dB


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
UHF SWR (300-ohms) Under 1.9


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
UHF Impedance


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 470 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 530 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 590 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 650 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 698 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 758 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 806 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2
4nec2 File Contains Summary of Dimensions


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen
A-D C2 - Side View
[1 large square = 2.5 inches]


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II - 3D View


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II - Front View
[1 large square = 2.5 inches]


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II - Top View
[1 large square = 2.5 inches]


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
UHF Raw Gain = 9.4 to 10.1 dBi
UHF F/B & F/R Ratio Minimum = 17.9 dB


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
UHF SWR (300-ohms) Under 2.5


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
UHF Impedance


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Azimuthal Pattern at 470 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Azimuthal Pattern at 530 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Azimuthal Pattern at 590 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Azimuthal Pattern at 650 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Azimuthal Pattern at 698 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Azimuthal Pattern at 806 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
4nec2 File Contains Summary of Dimensions


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Performance Summary per EVAL Function


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II - Side View
[1 large square = 2.5 inches]


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Hi-VHF Raw Gain = 2.7 to 3.2 dBi
Hi-VHF F/B & F/R Ratio = 0.3 to 0.6 dB
A Bit More Gain Forward.


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Hi-VHF SWR (300-ohms) Under 2.4
Connected to UVSJ via 300:75-ohm Balun


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Hi-VHF Impedance


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Azimuthal Pattern at 174 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Azimuthal Pattern at 198 MHz


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H+U Tapered Loop + Refl. Screen + VHF Dipole
A-D C2-V Gen-I/II
Azimuthal Pattern at 216 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2 - 3D View


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2 - Front View
[1 large square = 1.25 inches]


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2 - Front View DETAIL
Feedpoint Gap = 0.1875-in [Marked with Red Circle]
[1 large square = 0.25 inches]


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
UHF Raw Gain = 5.5 to 6.8 dBi


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
UHF SWR (300-ohms) Under 3.2 at 470 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
UHF Impedance


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 470 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 530 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 590 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 650 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 698 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 758 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Azimuthal Pattern at 806 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
4nec2 File Contains Summary of Dimensions


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
EVAL Summary of Performance


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Raw Gain vs Relem at 470 MHz
[Alum. Foil on Far Left, AWG-16 Far Right]


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Raw Gain vs Relem at 584 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
Raw Gain vs Relem at 698 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
SWR (300-ohms) vs Relem at 470 MHz
[Alum. Foil on Far Left, AWG-16 Far Right]


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
SWR (300-ohms) vs Relem at 584 MHz


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UHF Tapered Loop + NO Refl.
A-D C2
SWR (300-ohms) vs Relem at 698 MHz


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