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2017 Grand Gulch - Day 3
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Grand Gulch 2017
Day 3 - May 24

Big Pouroff to Bannister Ruin

Sidetrip up Deer Canyon
Misc. Ruins
Bannister Ruin

Nick T. Exploring Ruin

Leaving our Camp at the Big Pouroff, we headed down canyon in the cool of the morning, often in the shade. When we got to the mouth of Deer Canyon, we stashed our packs and headed up the north fork of Deer. This fork of Deer is very pleasant, with a nice spring at the end. The Nicks did some exploring of the upper reaches.

When we got back to our packs, we met another group taking a break. They were also heading down canyon - the first people we had seen since our first day. We headed out, taking advantage of what shade we could find as the temperature was creeping up.

The Nicks spotted some ruins high up on the canyon walls and broke off to explore them. Will, Mike, and I continued on down canyon. It wasn't long until we came to Bannister Ruin. I would have kept on going and missed it if Mike hadn't put his hiking stick in the path, causing me to look up and see the ruin. In 2000 there was a great camp here in a grove of huge cottonwoods, but now most of them had died and the ground was littered a jumble of dead branches with no shade. However, we found an adequate spot nearby and parked ourselves in the shade and had lunch. Later on we went over and explored the ruins.

Note photo takers are given in the titles under the thumbnails: Bill (bm), Mike (ms), Nick M. (nm), Nick T. (nt)

Kickass Trekkers on this trip were: Bill Mooseker, Will Stong, Mike Stong, Nick McMahan, Nick Tuggle

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Troop 24 Kickass Trekkers Backpacking Trip
-Cascade Bill Mooseker

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Mike was up before sunrise and got this photo of our camp while most of us were still in our sleeping bags.  Mike's tent is at center and Will's coffin is at the lower right.  Bill's is the green one and the Nick's is the blue one.

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Early morning action (or inaction) at our camp at the Big Pouroff.

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A slow panorama of the Big Pouroff in the early morning.

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Ready to head out, Will puts on his pack using the "Lost Ranger Flippy" method.

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Heading down canyon from our camp at the Big Pouroff

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Bill, Will, and Nick T heading down canyon.

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Going over a slickrock section - Will and Nick T. Photo location is HERE

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Bill on slickrock section.

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Will and Nick prepare to negotiate a small pouroff - you can see the logs and other detritus left by the summer floods.

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Looking back at the small pouroff and the last water we would see till Deer Canyon. Pouroff is located HERE.

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Will going down the small pouroff - Mike investigates the water pools.

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Going down around the next bend.

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Going around the bend below the small pouroff - Mike and Will discuss "flood debris" left high above the wash. Also the lilting song of a Canyon Wren can be heard.  It is nice hiking in the cool shade of morning.

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No question about this flood debris - wouldn't want to be here during a flash flood!

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At the mouth of Deer Canyon, we dropped our packs and hiked up the northern fork and found this nice pool of water about HERE.

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Beautiful Prickly Pear Cactus blooms.

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Nearing the head of the NF Deer Canyon.

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A Closer shot of a feature shown in the previous photo.

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Mike finds and unusual rock formation while hiking up the canyon.

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While Mike, Will, and Nick T went climbed up the right (south) side, Nick M. and I followed up the creek to its terminal spring - a pool with lush vegetation shown here.

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View of the pool.

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Behind the pool was a jumble of huge boulders was a cool shady spot with breezes coming down from the canyon above.

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Mike later came down and filmed this pleasant grotto.

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Looking back to the head of the canyon above the grotto.

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Close up of the pouroff above the grotto - Nick M. left me in the cool shade of the grotto and climbed up the steep walls to the upper canyon.

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If you enlarge this photo (click on thumbnail) you can see a white splotch high up, which is Nick T. on a ledge.

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View of Nick T on upper ledge.

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Nick T's view back down canyon from his ledge high above the canyon floor.

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Mike and Will discuss ruins and pictographs they see. Also watch Nick M reach a ruin (you'll have to look closely to see him!)

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If you look closely you can see Nick M at a ruin (in the shadow) far across the canyon (see previous video).

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Nick M's fisheye view of the ruin.

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Nick M's video of the ruin in Deer Canyon and panorama view from the ledge.  Nick T can be seen on the opposite side of the canyon.

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Nick T hiking up the canyon

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Mike's shot of the upper canyon

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Meanwhile, Nick M climbed up further - you can see Nick T at the pool on the lower ledge below.

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Pool seen in previous photo

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Frog in pool.

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Nick M photo while hiking up the upper canyon

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Pouroff pool in upper NF Deer Canyon

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Downstream end of the pouroff pool

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Life in the Pouroff pool - by Nick M.

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The pouroff

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pouroff wall

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Mike and Will take a last look up canyon.

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Looking down canyon.

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Will steadying his camera to get a shot of the "man and dinosaur" pictograph on the opposite wall.

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View of the "Man and dinosaur" pictograph - it is very large and very visible from afar.

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Just to the right of the pictograph - if you enlarge this thumbnail to "original size", you can see a row of smaller pictographs (also white) including another white bird pictograph.

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Mike and Will discuss ruins and pictographs they see.

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Telephoto of the "Man and Dinosaur" or could it be "Corn and Turkey". Enlarge thumbnail (Original size is best) and make your own mind up.

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Unusual formation on the rock.

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Another similar formation.

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Hand shown to scale for size - possibly a fossil eroding out.

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I found a nice place in the shade and waited for the guys to come back from their explorations. This is just above the first spring pool that we found in the canyon.

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Hiking back down canyon past the spring noted previously.

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View down canyon from just above the spring.

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Spectacular yellow cactus blooms along the way.

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Looks like a Prickly Pear cactus.

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We found a small ruin complex with this granary with the back wall collapsed.

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Nick M and the ruins.

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Ruin with unusual placement of door.

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This is the other end of the granary with the broken wall.

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Mike's video of the ruin complex and pictograph panel.

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Pictograph panel

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Another view

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Side view

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Symbols and a large deer(?)

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Close up of 4 legged animal.

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Back in the main gulch - ruins appear ahead. We met a group of 4 hikers at the mouth of Deer Canyon, which were the first people we had seen since our first day.

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Telephoto of ruins, on two ledges- The two Nicks pealed off to explore these.

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Nick T on the ledge with the ruins

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View of ruins

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This ruin has seen better days

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Nick's video of the ruins on the  ledge.

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Corn cobs inserted into the wall?

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More corn cobs in the wall. Why put corn cobs in the wall??

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Very nicely preserved ruin with very stylized openings.

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Unusual pedestal at this opening - you can see the wood branch used as reinforcing where the mud as flaked away.

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Pottery shards and maize cob.

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Another view

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Another view

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Climbing even higher Nick and Nick got this video of an upper ledge.  This is not for those that are afraid of heights.

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Nick T on upper ledge.

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Nick and Nick - having fun livin' on the edge (literally).

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View across the canyon from the upper ledge.

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Meanwhile back in the canyon, the old farts soldier along.

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Another hiker going down the wash - a four footed one.  Don't want to meet Mr Bear.  I guess he's looking for water like we will be.

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Hand showing scale of bear print.

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Will and Mike forge on ahead - it's getting quite hot in the sun.  I got a photo in this same spot in 2000 as well. We took a break just around the corner.  My GPS was off a mite as I thought we had another 1 - 1.5 miles to go yet.  
Actually we were HERE and the Bannister Ruin was just a few hundred feet down canyon from our break.  In fact I would have walked right by it if Mike had not put his hiking pole in the middle of the trail.  I looked around and then saw the ruin.

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I was looking for our 2000 camp that was in a shady grove of large cottonwoods, but in the intervening years, most of them had fallen down so there was no shade from the hot sun.  We would a nearby spot that had some shade and whiled away the afternoon.
Here we are shooting the breeze in the shade.

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Soon the sun dipped below the canyon wall and we got a little shade - Mike shows some rocks he found along the way while Bill is replacing the bandages on his blisters (not for the faint of heart).

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Panoramic view of the Bannister Ruin. Will and Mike can be seen at the base of the cliff below the ruin.

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Photo of the ruin, which sits on a high ledge. The ruin gets its name from the two long poles extending across the front of the ruin. A supply of branches has been stored at the left edge of the ruin. Nick M has joined Mike and Will.

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A panoramic shot looking across the canyon from the ledge below the Bannister Ruin.  Enlarge for best view.  Up canyon is to the left. Photo location is near the apex of a bend in the canyon and is located HERE

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Mike and Will inspect some pottery shards and hike up to the Kiva and Will reads from the Info about the site kept in an ammo cannister provided by the BLM.

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Will with the ruin in the background.

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Another view.

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The Nicks hiked along the ledge up canyon and found this unusual formation.  Nick T in the photo.

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Yin and Yang rock!

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Nick M in the cave.

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View of Nick in the cave.

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Looking out from the cave.

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Nick M

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View of the caves from another "window" rock.

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Window view of cave.

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Meanwhile, I hiked up to the ruin and got this shot.

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Another view.

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The Kiva - now roped off.  In 2000 it wasn't.

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Roof of the Kiva - you can see the rebar posts and the chain.

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Another view of the Kiva roof.

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Looking up canyon - if you enlarge the photo, you can see the camp of the group of hikers we saw earlier in the day at the center bottom of the photo. They had a better camp than we did but we wouldn't have been able to fit all our tents there.

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Looking up canyon from the lower ledge. If you enlarge the photo, you can see the Nicks coming back from their cave exploration.

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Telephoto view of the Nicks.  If you enlarge the photo you can see the tip of one of the cave openings at the top of the talus pile to the left side.

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Bill at the ruin.  It is possible to get on the upper ledge but there is a blocking defensive wall that prevents entry.  On our trip in 2000, one of my scouts, Austin, got on the ledge and got this PHOTO from the ledge.

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Looking up canyon.

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Dinner time: The chili is ready and Nick T is getting the Tea ready. Nick M searches for a Tick.

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