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I built a tapered Hoverman in Dec 2007 and after trial and error I enclosed with a square loop. The distance of the tapered Hoverman is almost the same as the outer square loop. This flat antenna will fit in a 24inch box for shiping to Phillipines. A window screen was added to 4 inches back of the antenna. Performance was almost as good as the Winegard for Ch 2 to ch 62 analog in Dec 2007. I have installed an antenna in Sogod,Cebu behind a mountain range but only 1 Ch3 plus 12 hiss free FM stations. I have pictures and video of antenna. Please contact this retired elect tech , Sam Wilson,714 Lorraine Blvd,Los Angeles,California 90005 - Sammy Wilson, Thu, 17 Dec 2009 6:09PM | |||||