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Maps Mileages Elevations


Maps/Mileages/Elevation Gains and Losses
How I Calculated Them Over the Decades

Back in the early 1980’s I purchased a Silva Map Measuring tool. It had a very small gear wheel that you would roll along the trail on a map. As the wheel turned it was geared to another wheel that was calibrated to different map scales, which would tell the distance between two points. Using this I would get the data for the trail distance and note the elevation at “nodes” at the ends of the measured legs.

To get a measure of the distance travelled as well as the elevation gain, I wrote a simple basic program that computed the difference in elevation and the distance between the ends of each measured leg along with the the cumulative distance and elevation gain and loss from the start. This was a tedious process but gave useful results.

In the 1990’s you could buy Topo Maps on CD and the associated software allowed you to draw tracks and routes and make a printable map. These also provided means to transfer the data to GPS handsets which could be used in the field. I modified my program to use these data files to give me similar but more accurate results compared to those of my earlier manual measurements on physical topographic maps. In order to account for the variable up and downs you encounter along a trail, I came up with a factor of 20 feet or up/down per mile

I had purchased topo maps on CD’s from several different publishers, but eventually settled MapTech Terrain Navigator software. After several updates the software provided a tie in to Google Earth so that any track or route you made on the topo map could then be displayed simultaneously on Maptech and Google Earth. This worked well for many years until the current versions of Google Earth could no longer be recognized by the MapTech program.

I tried many online versions of mapping programs with varying degrees of success. These included Acme Mapper 2.0, Hillmap.com, and Caltopo. Each had their advantages but several years ago Google changed their conditions for using their satellite maps and the free online mappers could not provide high resolution satellite images on a free basis. Eventually I subscribed to Caltopo, which includes the use of Google Satellite Maps as well as several different types of topographic map layers. I am well pleased with the service.

The topo base layers available in Caltopo which are most useful for me are Caltopo's Mapbuilder and Forest Service. Several others are available including "Scanned Topos" from old paper maps.

The links I provide to Caltopo for the maps in my albums will usually show a Forest Service topographic map (for Utah Canyons I may use Google Satellite maps). If you are a Caltopo subscriber, you can quickly switch from the topo map to a satellite map with the click of a mouse. For hiking in the high country, satellite maps are very useful because you can often see the trail clearly and can draw your route directly on the satellite map and then switch it to a topo view.

One thing rapidly becomes apparent when you follow a trail on the satellite map – it bears little resemblance to the trail that is shown on the topo maps. On the other hand, the satellite maps are not useful when the trail goes through heavilly forested terrain. In that case you have to rely on the trail locations as given on the topo maps.

Today (2023) I use Caltopo to create a track or route following the trail as closely as possible, using satellite maps whenever possible. I then export that track/route from Caltopo as either a gpx or Google kml format file. Using the freeware POIConverter program I can convert the Caltopo gpx/kml file to the MapTech “RXF” file format that Terrain Navigator uses. I use these “RXF” files with my BASIC program to get distances and elevation gains/losses.

When I provide a Map in my photo albums, if I have used Caltopo, I will provide a link to the Caltopo map. Unfortunately, if the map is one of the topo formats and you do not have a subscription, you will not be able to render the route using Satellite map layer but are limited a less precise alternative, Global Imagery, which is still quite good. If you want to make the effort, you can, however, export the Caltopo route to a Google “kml” file which can then be displayed in Google Earth.

-Cascade Bill Mooseker


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This map is best viewed at "Original Resolution"

To view at "Original Resolution", click on Thumbnail to enlarge the map, then Click again to access the original resolution. Move the cursor to the point on the map that you want to enlarge and then click the cursor to zoom in or out.

This is from a Troop 24 - 1981 trip in the Pasayten Wilderness.  Photo Locations pointed out in the album are shown as circles with numbers inscribed. The photo album for this trip can be viewed by clicking HERE


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Map showing route for 1983 Troop 24's 50 Miler - Days 1 & 2. - View Map at Original size for best view. This map was created using Maptech Terrain Navigator in 2016. The photo album for this trip can be viewed by clicking HERE

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Statistics for Troop 24's 1983 50 Miler - Day 1 along the trail - 3.2 miles and 2784' climbed.

This is from a BASIC program I wrote using a database compiled from using a "roller" measurement device along a route on a topo map.  I still use the same program, but now I get the database from coordinates obtained from online CalTopo maps.


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Pasayten 2001 - Day2 Map1 FS topo

Example of a Caltopo generated topo map using the Caltopo Forest Service base layer.  This map is from Troop 24's 2001 Pasayten Backpacking trip (Day 2 Map 1). This map can be printed on 11X17 paper and used in the field at a true scale of 1 inch equals 1000 feet. The online Caltopo Map for this map can be found HERE. The photo album for this trip can be viewed by clicking HERE

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Statistics for Day 2 of Troop 24's 2001 Pasayten Backpacking trip.

These are  from a BASIC program I wrote using a database e from coordinates obtained from online CalTopo maps.

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Pasayten 2001 - Day2 Map2 FS topo

This is the Caltopo Forest Service Base layer of Map 2 for Day 2 of our 2001 Pasayten trip. On this map and the previous map, Waypoints corresponding to those used in the mileage/elevation computations are shown along the route starting from waypoint 2 of the Diamond Jack Trail all the way to Camp 2

I've used the Google Satellite base layer to trace the route as much as possible. If you enlarge the photo, you can see how much the actual route differs from that plotted on the topo map.


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Pasayten 2001 - Day2 Map2 MapBuilder topo

Same as previous map but using Caltopo's Mapbuilder Layer. It adds shading to reflect ridges and valleys but it also adds a lot of extra information which tends to clutter up the map as compared to the Forest Service layer.

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Pasayten 2001 - Day2 Map2 Google Sat

Same map but using the Google Satellite layer, which is available if you are a Caltopo subscriber. As you can see much of the route (in fact most of this trip) has since been subjected to major forest fires and would be difficult if not impossible to follow today.

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Pasayten 2001 Day 2 - Caltopo Global Imagery

You can't print a Google Satellite map in Caltopo.  The best alternative is to use the "Global Imagery layer" as shown here.

 
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